Comments on: Obama Motors – The Not For Profit Car Company http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-motors/ A New Age of Reason in a Messianic World Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:20:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Barry Davis http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-motors/#comment-7551 Barry Davis Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:18:22 +0000 http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/?p=377#comment-7551 All these silly electric cars and electric gas hybrids will cause the price of gas to rise based on simple economics. In 1976 gas was around 50 cents per gallon. The average fill up was 30 gallons, this is $15.00. Today with high mileage cars we buy less fuel per fill up and go longer between fill ups. We pay $2.50 per gallon for 10 gallons or 25.00. The higher mileage and lower amounts combine to make our out of pocket costs even higher. Why is this? The cost of delivering the product to you is one part and the profit to the station owner is another. When we progress to the 100 MPG hybrids and the all electric cars the price of a gallon of gas will be over $10.00. You'll buy 2 and 1 half gallons and you'll pay $25.00 for it. Profits will be one factor but the other is the federal state and local tax revenue derived from the sale of gas. Government rarely wants to do with less so these taxes will surely rise. All these silly electric cars and electric gas hybrids will cause the price of gas to rise based on simple economics. In 1976 gas was around 50 cents per gallon. The average fill up was 30 gallons, this is $15.00. Today with high mileage cars we buy less fuel per fill up and go longer between fill ups. We pay $2.50 per gallon for 10 gallons or 25.00. The higher mileage and lower amounts combine to make our out of pocket costs even higher. Why is this? The cost of delivering the product to you is one part and the profit to the station owner is another. When we progress to the 100 MPG hybrids and the all electric cars the price of a gallon of gas will be over $10.00. You’ll buy 2 and 1 half gallons and you’ll pay $25.00 for it. Profits will be one factor but the other is the federal state and local tax revenue derived from the sale of gas. Government rarely wants to do with less so these taxes will surely rise.

]]> By: Buddy Guy http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-motors/#comment-6954 Buddy Guy Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:09:11 +0000 http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/?p=377#comment-6954 Excellent blog with lots of useful information on alternative fuels. Are there any forums that you recommend I join? <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/Electric+Vehicles/articles/210/Electric+Moped+Guide+Things+Consider+Before" rel="nofollow">:-)</a> Excellent blog with lots of useful information on alternative fuels. Are there any forums that you recommend I join? :-)

]]> By: AIDEN http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-motors/#comment-5476 AIDEN Tue, 12 May 2009 23:44:04 +0000 http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/?p=377#comment-5476 Loved it, thanks. Loved it, thanks.

]]> By: Samantha http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-motors/#comment-4588 Samantha Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:56:55 +0000 http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/?p=377#comment-4588 Back in the mid-1980's, my parents bought a brand new Chrystler Fifth Avenue. Back then, they were nice cars. It was the dealer's car that he had fine-tuned to get the best gas mileage possible. It had an eight-cylinder engine and was a pretty big boat-like car equipped with all the bells and whisles. It got 35 miles per gallon on the highway. How is it that we can't seem to make even a tiny, lightweight vehicle that runs partially off electricity, like the Prius, to get more than 40 miles per gallon? Something doesn't add up, Scooter! Me thinks someone has their greedy paws in the cookie jar again and thinks nobody is noticing! Back in the mid-1980’s, my parents bought a brand new Chrystler Fifth Avenue. Back then, they were nice cars. It was the dealer’s car that he had fine-tuned to get the best gas mileage possible. It had an eight-cylinder engine and was a pretty big boat-like car equipped with all the bells and whisles. It got 35 miles per gallon on the highway. How is it that we can’t seem to make even a tiny, lightweight vehicle that runs partially off electricity, like the Prius, to get more than 40 miles per gallon?

Something doesn’t add up, Scooter! Me thinks someone has their greedy paws in the cookie jar again and thinks nobody is noticing!

]]> By: Ian http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-motors/#comment-4361 Ian Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:25:08 +0000 http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/?p=377#comment-4361 just a comment: none of us are old enough to remember but in the 1920's electric vehicles far outnumbered any other type ( except possibly horsedrawn). If we had never gone over to the 'dark side' in the first place we wouldn't be scrambling to get our co2 levels back down to 350ppm or below so this whole D___ planet dosn't just kick on us. Just a thought. just a comment: none of us are old enough to remember but in the 1920’s electric vehicles far outnumbered any other type
( except possibly horsedrawn). If we had never gone over to the ‘dark side’ in the first place we wouldn’t be scrambling to get our co2 levels back down to 350ppm or below so this whole D___ planet dosn’t just kick on us. Just a thought.

]]> By: Steve Hadarits http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-motors/#comment-3760 Steve Hadarits Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:17:20 +0000 http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/?p=377#comment-3760 Back in 1980 I studied solar technology & alternatives.The golden rule is the investment payback. Today everybody and there uncle going for green electric /hybrid cars. The first thing the country should do go fully nuclear power plant , until the alternatve (wind & solar ?)energy catching up 50 plus years. In order to cut back on emission need to looked the improved blue Diesel engine ,This engine could be installed in the Hybrid or direct with multi fuel. The economic cars could be $12-20.000 . The very interesting thing is when VW come out with the second generation BUG. the company was debating on the power train , to be a Hybrid or conventional drive. Today VW is very quiet wonder why. I feel the electric car race going to turn into a Diesel /Hybrid race. Also 50 years from now people will be driving nuclear vehicles. Ford was ahead its time with the design. but will see.(of course not me.) Back in 1980 I studied solar technology & alternatives.The golden rule is the investment payback. Today everybody and there uncle going for green electric /hybrid cars. The first thing the country should do go fully nuclear power plant , until the alternatve (wind & solar ?)energy catching up 50 plus years. In order to cut back on emission need to looked the improved blue Diesel engine ,This engine could be installed in the Hybrid or direct with multi fuel.
The economic cars could be $12-20.000 . The very interesting thing is when VW come out with the second generation BUG.
the company was debating on the power train , to be a Hybrid or conventional drive. Today VW is very quiet wonder why. I feel the electric car race going to turn into a Diesel /Hybrid race. Also 50 years from now people will be driving nuclear vehicles.
Ford was ahead its time with the design. but will see.(of course not me.)

]]> By: unksly http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-motors/#comment-3680 unksly Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:52:51 +0000 http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/?p=377#comment-3680 I can only agree and second all the replies of William! AMERICA has too many snags in place regulating this resarch and development.. We have the technoligies but, we in this will be late in producing the better outcome with finished products. During the initial surge of electronics [1950's],American technology was the source and the catalyst of the 'cheap' mass assembly lines and sweat factories in various unregulated Asian mass workforces, and I also add cheaper, unregulated labor forces. WE ARE AMERICAN, and NORTH AMERICA will lead in this field eventually! SO BE IT!! I can only agree and second all the replies of William!
AMERICA has too many snags in place regulating this resarch and development..
We have the technoligies but, we in this will be late in producing the better outcome with finished products.
During the initial surge of electronics [1950's],American technology was the source and the catalyst of the ‘cheap’ mass assembly lines and sweat factories in various unregulated Asian mass workforces, and I also add cheaper, unregulated labor forces. WE ARE AMERICAN, and NORTH AMERICA will lead in this field eventually! SO BE IT!!

]]> By: William Bologna http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-motors/#comment-3427 William Bologna Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:13:31 +0000 http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/?p=377#comment-3427 Dave, I agree with you, there will be plug-in electric cars in our future. But the name plate will Toyota, Honda, BMW etc.,and not GM or Chrysler. It is one thing for government to promulgate regulations but that does not give them the competence to actually run a car company. Dave,
I agree with you, there will be plug-in electric cars in our future. But the name plate will Toyota, Honda, BMW etc.,and not GM or Chrysler. It is one thing for government to promulgate regulations but that does not give them the competence to actually run a car company.

]]> By: Dave http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-motors/#comment-3422 Dave Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:39:49 +0000 http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/?p=377#comment-3422 When cell phones first came out few wanted them, a portalble came in a bag you slipped over your shoulder, they were expensive, you could only talk for 10 minutes they they had to be recharged. When flat screen TV's first came out few people wanted them, the picture was not that great and they cost 10,000 dollars. If we had waited for the technology to be perfect we would still be using pay phones and CRT TV's. The technology has to start sometime. Oh by the way if it had not been for goverment pressure cars would still not have seat belts or air bags. When cell phones first came out few wanted them, a portalble came in a bag you slipped over your shoulder, they were expensive, you could only talk for 10 minutes they they had to be recharged. When flat screen TV’s first came out few people wanted them, the picture was not that great and they cost 10,000 dollars. If we had waited for the technology to be perfect we would still be using pay phones and CRT TV’s. The technology has to start sometime. Oh by the way if it had not been for goverment pressure cars would still not have seat belts or air bags.

]]> By: William Bologna http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-motors/#comment-3310 William Bologna Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:18:49 +0000 http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/?p=377#comment-3310 The power to charge the battery has to com from somewhere, unfortunately solar accounts for only one-tenth of one percent of our electricity while coal accounts for over 50%. Coal is much dirtier than gasoline. Since we are stuck for the moment with fossil fuels, the key to producing less carbon dioxide emissions s is to use the fuel with the lowest carbon to hydrogen ratio. Coal is the least desirable because there are roughly 2 carbons for each hydrogen; oil is cleaner because it has the inverse ratio of approximately one carbon for 2 hydrogen molecules; and best of all is methane (CH4), with 4 hydrogen molecules for each carbon molecule. In the strange calculus of clean technology a natural gas car could actually be cleaner than an electric car. The power to charge the battery has to com from somewhere, unfortunately solar accounts for only one-tenth of one percent of our electricity while coal accounts for over 50%. Coal is much dirtier than gasoline. Since we are stuck for the moment with fossil fuels, the key to producing less carbon dioxide emissions s is to use the fuel with the lowest carbon to hydrogen ratio. Coal is the least desirable because there are roughly 2 carbons for each hydrogen; oil is cleaner because it has the inverse ratio of approximately one carbon for 2 hydrogen molecules; and best of all is methane (CH4), with 4 hydrogen molecules for each carbon molecule. In the strange calculus of clean technology a natural gas car could actually be cleaner than an electric car.

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