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		<title>By: Mora Sharer</title>
		<link>http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-muslins/#comment-11892</link>
		<dc:creator>Mora Sharer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only want to say your article is astounding. The clarity in your post is simply impressive and i can assume you are an expert on this subject. Well with your permission allow me to grab your rss feed to keep up to date with incoming post. Thanks a million and please keep up the good work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only want to say your article is astounding. The clarity in your post is simply impressive and i can assume you are an expert on this subject. Well with your permission allow me to grab your rss feed to keep up to date with incoming post. Thanks a million and please keep up the good work</p>
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		<title>By: sue townsend m</title>
		<link>http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-muslins/#comment-6476</link>
		<dc:creator>sue townsend m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 20:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness (God), TJ, was told the truth by by the Triploitan. There is nothing superior about Islam.

 I think President Bush handled this predicament well. I only wish that the war had commenced more quickly.

They attacked us. They have sent people here to plot and plan the attack against the US.

'From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli' 

I think you are exacly right, Mr Bologna. 

Why must we do anything he suggests/orders/ compels. We haven';t seen his birth certificate. Wasn't TJ also the person who said No one but a 'natural- born citizen can be made President. 

 Remember Jane Fonda saying she would only pay a percentage of her taxes so that she wouldn't be financing the military-industrial complex. let's all do that. Only in reverse.

   Obama is a Muslim( and a Marxist one to boot).. Just like his father. 

 He's exactly the individual TJ feared might win the Presidency one day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank goodness (God), TJ, was told the truth by by the Triploitan. There is nothing superior about Islam.</p>
<p> I think President Bush handled this predicament well. I only wish that the war had commenced more quickly.</p>
<p>They attacked us. They have sent people here to plot and plan the attack against the US.</p>
<p>&#8216;From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli&#8217; </p>
<p>I think you are exacly right, Mr Bologna. </p>
<p>Why must we do anything he suggests/orders/ compels. We haven&#8217;;t seen his birth certificate. Wasn&#8217;t TJ also the person who said No one but a &#8216;natural- born citizen can be made President. </p>
<p> Remember Jane Fonda saying she would only pay a percentage of her taxes so that she wouldn&#8217;t be financing the military-industrial complex. let&#8217;s all do that. Only in reverse.</p>
<p>   Obama is a Muslim( and a Marxist one to boot).. Just like his father. </p>
<p> He&#8217;s exactly the individual TJ feared might win the Presidency one day.</p>
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		<title>By: ambrose</title>
		<link>http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-muslins/#comment-6184</link>
		<dc:creator>ambrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 16:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I think is even more dangerous is the threat that the Democratic policy poses to the progress of American society. Our pretensions toward individualism, self determination, and self sufficiency are becoming more and more empty by the day under our growing welfare state. People can get a thousand dollars a month for having a unplanned pregnancy, without working, while simultaneously anyone can be screened for drug use by an employer, everything from movies to newspapers are edited for offensive/subversive content, people are expected to make a decision from either a 20 second sound byte and a high school pretty boy smile, or a 20 minute speech that amounts to the phrase "Decline to Comment." We are losing our perspective. A person who commits a slow suicide(pills, slit wrists) will often feel relief sheerly from deciding to act and call 911. It happens all the time. Here we are, we the people, and we're losing the ability to make decisions. Are we going to kill ourselves?

As for the silent assent of the so-called Arab Street, I'm skeptical about that too. I'm sure that everyone here has something they passionately disagree with about some authority, be it the government, their particular political party, or their employer, but don't do anything about, because they don't have time or would risk their livelihood or freedom. I know I do. Now go to the third world and see how much time and voice the average person there has. Maybe they think terrorism is a good thing, or maybe they just have more immediate problems. I haven't asked, and I don't trust Al-Jazeera to report an accurate poll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I think is even more dangerous is the threat that the Democratic policy poses to the progress of American society. Our pretensions toward individualism, self determination, and self sufficiency are becoming more and more empty by the day under our growing welfare state. People can get a thousand dollars a month for having a unplanned pregnancy, without working, while simultaneously anyone can be screened for drug use by an employer, everything from movies to newspapers are edited for offensive/subversive content, people are expected to make a decision from either a 20 second sound byte and a high school pretty boy smile, or a 20 minute speech that amounts to the phrase &#8220;Decline to Comment.&#8221; We are losing our perspective. A person who commits a slow suicide(pills, slit wrists) will often feel relief sheerly from deciding to act and call 911. It happens all the time. Here we are, we the people, and we&#8217;re losing the ability to make decisions. Are we going to kill ourselves?</p>
<p>As for the silent assent of the so-called Arab Street, I&#8217;m skeptical about that too. I&#8217;m sure that everyone here has something they passionately disagree with about some authority, be it the government, their particular political party, or their employer, but don&#8217;t do anything about, because they don&#8217;t have time or would risk their livelihood or freedom. I know I do. Now go to the third world and see how much time and voice the average person there has. Maybe they think terrorism is a good thing, or maybe they just have more immediate problems. I haven&#8217;t asked, and I don&#8217;t trust Al-Jazeera to report an accurate poll.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-muslins/#comment-6044</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 06:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Islam is literally in the 14th Century. When we (western europeans) were in our 14th century we were beating women, burning heretics at the stake and locked into a single catholic religion. Hundreds of years of civil wars later we finally have a more or less liberal (in Locke's sense of the word) civil society. For us to expect Islam to magically become a liberal society overnight  is insanity. We need to treat them like a very slow and stubborn child. As we attempt to turn them into a liberal civil society there will be setbacks and there will be conflicts. But we must have faith in secular humanism. The basic rights of life, liberty and property are new concepts to Muslim societies. Their societies will come around. People will, eventually, respond to logic and reason. In the meantime we must simultaneously be on our guard and lead them into the 21st century as one would lead a child. This will take generations and there will be blood, both ours and theirs. But in the end they will produce more Ataturks and the march of Western liberal civilization is inexorable unless we lose faith in Locke and Smith. Obama is a product of Locke and Smith. We shall overcome and if the President tosses a few white lies to appease the current generation of fanatics, while subverting the next generation of muslims, I'm all for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Islam is literally in the 14th Century. When we (western europeans) were in our 14th century we were beating women, burning heretics at the stake and locked into a single catholic religion. Hundreds of years of civil wars later we finally have a more or less liberal (in Locke&#8217;s sense of the word) civil society. For us to expect Islam to magically become a liberal society overnight  is insanity. We need to treat them like a very slow and stubborn child. As we attempt to turn them into a liberal civil society there will be setbacks and there will be conflicts. But we must have faith in secular humanism. The basic rights of life, liberty and property are new concepts to Muslim societies. Their societies will come around. People will, eventually, respond to logic and reason. In the meantime we must simultaneously be on our guard and lead them into the 21st century as one would lead a child. This will take generations and there will be blood, both ours and theirs. But in the end they will produce more Ataturks and the march of Western liberal civilization is inexorable unless we lose faith in Locke and Smith. Obama is a product of Locke and Smith. We shall overcome and if the President tosses a few white lies to appease the current generation of fanatics, while subverting the next generation of muslims, I&#8217;m all for it.</p>
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		<title>By: smitty</title>
		<link>http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-muslins/#comment-5971</link>
		<dc:creator>smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 21:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes this sounds like what"our" president will say, he has so far apoligized for everything that this country has ever done. He has apologized because we are the strongest nation in the world, that this country has stood up to the bullies of the world,and that until he was elected a presidents job was to help guide our political course as determined by the people of this great country. Now it seems the presidents job is to kiss up to all of the dictators, terrorists and failed political ideas that are stii managing to hang on. How long will it be before the dome of the US Senate is covered in gold and sportsa crescent insignia?i</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes this sounds like what&#8221;our&#8221; president will say, he has so far apoligized for everything that this country has ever done. He has apologized because we are the strongest nation in the world, that this country has stood up to the bullies of the world,and that until he was elected a presidents job was to help guide our political course as determined by the people of this great country. Now it seems the presidents job is to kiss up to all of the dictators, terrorists and failed political ideas that are stii managing to hang on. How long will it be before the dome of the US Senate is covered in gold and sportsa crescent insignia?i</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Cornelius</title>
		<link>http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-muslins/#comment-5915</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Cornelius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 23:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck S., there are no great 'Western' faith systems.  The major world religions are 'Eastern".  The bsic Islamic problem is not just the Koran, throw in the 'dog in the manger factor'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck S., there are no great &#8216;Western&#8217; faith systems.  The major world religions are &#8216;Eastern&#8221;.  The bsic Islamic problem is not just the Koran, throw in the &#8216;dog in the manger factor&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-muslins/#comment-5829</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 06:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I have no great love for Islam, as it seems contrived at the very best, neither do I find great wisdom in much of the Christian churches, although I consider myself one; same for the offical religion of Israel, much of it seems, by any logical view, as Spock might say, ILLOGICAL !!!  They all are full of myths, half truths, and many silly if not absurd beliefs.  
The bobbing up and down by Jews to the West Wall, or by Muslims, or of Christians wearing silly clothes like Catholic Bishops [and cute red shoes for the Pope], it's all over the top, a bit nuts!  And the stronger people believe in these things the more likely they are nuts and willing to destroy anyone not like themselves!  [ I do try to respect all belief's but can not ignore their weaknesses.]
I believe in God, partly because of a near-death-experience that showed me a beauty and reason beyond this often crazy dimension.  But I'm afraid that the zealots of the major religions will destroy us all, they go against basic common sense and rational compromise.   Jews often blame nearly everyone for the terrible things of World War 2, and seem willing to send their 100+ nuclear bombs all over the Mideast unless their view of the world is totally accepted.  They will not talk to those who do not recognize Israel YET they do not effectively recognize the Arabs or Arab land, yes even if they are Christians!  [not that it should matter, but more American's should know that many Arabs are not Muslims.]
Muslims too often can only think of the Israel/Mideast problem and not the bigger picture, like of million's of Muslims living happily in the West; they too often encourage extremist's in Islam and they do not work hard enough to see the delicate position of Israel.
And too many right wing Christians supported Bush/Cheney and their in effect holy war, which has made the Mideast all the more of a mess and our mess!
Let's try to stick to a few common sense idea's about religion, because the farther away from the center we move the less accurate we are, literally the farther away from God or any generally agreed view of decency, and the closer to a war that will make Iraq seem like a picnic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I have no great love for Islam, as it seems contrived at the very best, neither do I find great wisdom in much of the Christian churches, although I consider myself one; same for the offical religion of Israel, much of it seems, by any logical view, as Spock might say, ILLOGICAL !!!  They all are full of myths, half truths, and many silly if not absurd beliefs.<br />
The bobbing up and down by Jews to the West Wall, or by Muslims, or of Christians wearing silly clothes like Catholic Bishops [and cute red shoes for the Pope], it&#8217;s all over the top, a bit nuts!  And the stronger people believe in these things the more likely they are nuts and willing to destroy anyone not like themselves!  [ I do try to respect all belief's but can not ignore their weaknesses.]<br />
I believe in God, partly because of a near-death-experience that showed me a beauty and reason beyond this often crazy dimension.  But I&#8217;m afraid that the zealots of the major religions will destroy us all, they go against basic common sense and rational compromise.   Jews often blame nearly everyone for the terrible things of World War 2, and seem willing to send their 100+ nuclear bombs all over the Mideast unless their view of the world is totally accepted.  They will not talk to those who do not recognize Israel YET they do not effectively recognize the Arabs or Arab land, yes even if they are Christians!  [not that it should matter, but more American's should know that many Arabs are not Muslims.]<br />
Muslims too often can only think of the Israel/Mideast problem and not the bigger picture, like of million&#8217;s of Muslims living happily in the West; they too often encourage extremist&#8217;s in Islam and they do not work hard enough to see the delicate position of Israel.<br />
And too many right wing Christians supported Bush/Cheney and their in effect holy war, which has made the Mideast all the more of a mess and our mess!<br />
Let&#8217;s try to stick to a few common sense idea&#8217;s about religion, because the farther away from the center we move the less accurate we are, literally the farther away from God or any generally agreed view of decency, and the closer to a war that will make Iraq seem like a picnic.</p>
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		<title>By: Arvid Nybroten</title>
		<link>http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-muslins/#comment-5813</link>
		<dc:creator>Arvid Nybroten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 23:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last time a Muslim country invaded Europe in the name of spreading Islam was 1683 when the Ottoman Turks attacked Vienna.  If, first Britain and France and more recently the US and Israel would stop attempts to influence Miiddle East politics to their own economic and poltical advantage probably there wouldn't be such anger at the US and the West.  We have not promoted our own enlgihtenment principles in the Middle East, so how can we condemn the people of the Middle East for not adopting them.  It is not as though thier anger against us sprang from nowhere or reprsents some sudden inexplicable return to the Middle Ages.  Most people, whatever their religious beliefs, simply want a better life for themselves and their children.  And on the subject of returning to the Middle Ages, doesn't is seem almost incredible that we are now arguing about the use of torture as a moral option in the first decade of the 21th century?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time a Muslim country invaded Europe in the name of spreading Islam was 1683 when the Ottoman Turks attacked Vienna.  If, first Britain and France and more recently the US and Israel would stop attempts to influence Miiddle East politics to their own economic and poltical advantage probably there wouldn&#8217;t be such anger at the US and the West.  We have not promoted our own enlgihtenment principles in the Middle East, so how can we condemn the people of the Middle East for not adopting them.  It is not as though thier anger against us sprang from nowhere or reprsents some sudden inexplicable return to the Middle Ages.  Most people, whatever their religious beliefs, simply want a better life for themselves and their children.  And on the subject of returning to the Middle Ages, doesn&#8217;t is seem almost incredible that we are now arguing about the use of torture as a moral option in the first decade of the 21th century?</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-muslins/#comment-5792</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 16:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all this appealing to the muslim or arab world by President Obama why does he bother when Arabs or even most muslims do not believe in abortions of their peoples or in sodomy marriages as Obama promotes in the United States of America.What he does there he will also do in other nations so it is good to take what he says Egypt and the world with a grain of salt. The real help and hope is not found in him or others but in the Lord God Almighty,The Lord Jesus Christ. He is the one who died for our sins on the cross and rose again and is alive forevermore.From the Authorized King James Holy Bible of 1611,the preserved word of God.Read John and Romans in it.www.fbn.org or www.pgm.org , Thank You,Sincerely; George</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all this appealing to the muslim or arab world by President Obama why does he bother when Arabs or even most muslims do not believe in abortions of their peoples or in sodomy marriages as Obama promotes in the United States of America.What he does there he will also do in other nations so it is good to take what he says Egypt and the world with a grain of salt. The real help and hope is not found in him or others but in the Lord God Almighty,The Lord Jesus Christ. He is the one who died for our sins on the cross and rose again and is alive forevermore.From the Authorized King James Holy Bible of 1611,the preserved word of God.Read John and Romans in it.www.fbn.org or <a href="http://www.pgm.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.pgm.org</a> , Thank You,Sincerely; George</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Sheikowitz</title>
		<link>http://www.cincinnatusblog.com/obama-muslins/#comment-5784</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Sheikowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 12:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like all "great Western" faith systems, Islam is broad and nebulous enough to permit adherents to pick and choose.  All of them have moved between the extremes of Roman or German absolutism and tyranny and libertarianism. At one time or another, all of them have imposed the social restricts that the current radical extremist posture that some Muslim ideologues currently demand.  

Using religion as an abstract component of propaganda is a vicious tactic, whether employed by Osamaites, Hitlerites, Stalinists, or Charlie Chaplin.  Jefferson, not Bush, had precisely the right tactic.  Destroy the nexus of threats, and then return to your business -- prepared, of course to hammer any coals that may reemerge from the hammering.  This minimizes suffering on all sides, and allows for the possibility of real change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like all &#8220;great Western&#8221; faith systems, Islam is broad and nebulous enough to permit adherents to pick and choose.  All of them have moved between the extremes of Roman or German absolutism and tyranny and libertarianism. At one time or another, all of them have imposed the social restricts that the current radical extremist posture that some Muslim ideologues currently demand.  </p>
<p>Using religion as an abstract component of propaganda is a vicious tactic, whether employed by Osamaites, Hitlerites, Stalinists, or Charlie Chaplin.  Jefferson, not Bush, had precisely the right tactic.  Destroy the nexus of threats, and then return to your business &#8212; prepared, of course to hammer any coals that may reemerge from the hammering.  This minimizes suffering on all sides, and allows for the possibility of real change.</p>
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