Interesting then, that today it is the radical right that is called fascist. Taken together this implies that today’s “left” and “centrist” positions are well to the left of what the founders considered extreme left. And that the founding fathers governed to the right of what now is called extreme.

We must remember who is calling who the fascist. The far left, ever increasingly becoming the norm in this country, are extremely quick to bandy about words like fascist and nazi because they are in the business of disinformation.

Your right though, the founding fathers saw the right as what we could now call libertarianism. They saw the left as nearly what it is today, big government and centralized power structures (like the deceptively named Federal Reserve Bank).

Today left and right are a deception. A way to keep people from looking too deeply, either within themselves or at government and what it’s really doing. The only way to fight this deception is for people to start reading again and not just entertainment books. The reason the founding brothers (the title of a book you all should read) were so smart and able to pull together this system of government is because they all were very well read, most even self taught. Nearly all the ideas that this country were founded on were not original, they were taken from various philosophers and historians. Most of them read the same books and thus were in agreement on many of the most important things.

The main point being that the founding brothers, despite their different views on religion and other things, were unanimous in their belief of morality and finding the center. This whole government was originally set up with centrist views in mind. The founding brothers believed that on the far right was anarchy and on the far left fascism. They knew the importance of agreeing on the most important things.

Interesting then, that today it is the radical right that is called fascist. Taken together this implies that today’s “left” and “centrist” positions are well to the left of what the founders considered extreme left. And that the founding fathers governed to the right of what now is called extreme.

Also, if there were any Christians in the group, and no one denies that there were at least several, then what they felt were “the most important things” must have been front and center Christianity.

I have found little evidence that suggests that the majority of our founders were religious, and they certainly do not appear to have been Christian.

It’s not surprising to me that you haven’t seen the evidence but it’s not hard to find if you look. Here might be a good place to start your education:
http://www.hobbylobby.com/holiday_messages/images/messages/july4.jpg

Strange indeed that the website you gave mistakes the meaning of virtually every quote. No surprise that the founders showed strong contempt for the Roman Catholic church. But to claim thereby that they denied Scripture only betrays complete ignorance of Catholic doctrine. The Protestant Reformation started because the Roman Catholic church would not accept Scripture, but placed all authority in the hands of fallen man instead. Do you really believe that the Pilgrims or any others of the early settlers who came for religious freedom were looking for freedom from religion? A few, perhaps, but the majority desired freedom to preach “Sola Scriptura” without a church hierarchy watching over them while lining the pockets of its cardinals and bishops.

Assault weapons (what is an assault weapon?) could well be another matter. I agree with those who say that they are dangerous and of no practical use. Were I a collector I might have a different attitude, legitimately, but only if I were.

Yes, long live the Enlightenment Party.

You are so right about the ever escalating interest payments. That is our underlying doom. It won’t be long - you’ll be around - before the dollar is no longer the world’s reserve currency. The effect will be serious but gradual.

We will become just another England. Something, it seems, we’ve been trying hard to become for a long time now.

Neither party is willing to admit that the financial crisis was caused by the Federal Reserve Commissar’s efforts to “manage” the money supply.

We managed to divorce religion and the State; let us do likewise for the economy, and most especially, for the currency; we cannot permit the State to manipulate the value of the dollar.

Faced with this rising debt, the State will simply inflate its way out of the problem. The rest of us will pay higher prices, a hidden form of taxation.

The main point being that the founding brothers, despite their different views on religion and other things, were unanimous in their belief of morality and finding the center. This whole government was originally set up with centrist views in mind. The founding brothers believed that on the far right was anarchy and on the far left fascism. They knew the importance of agreeing on the most important things.

Look at how quick we are in today’s society to attack one another; that persons a liberal, that persons a rightwing nutjob. You said something I disagree with so I’m going to attack you personally. If you’ve ever read the letters and editorials of the founding brothers, they were highly critical of each other, but their letters were littered with high praise as well. They all agreed that brotherly love was the only thing that could hold this country together. They designed this government for a highly moral people, and only a highly moral people could maintain it.